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In terms of a Vegan Reich possible tour, would you try to change VR’s philosophy/politics in order to get more acceptance and/or avoid boycotts or would you just stick to the book? What is the response you expect? Them?We won’t change some of the stuff, others we will. My point is not to say that each person in the group believes this or that - I mean, for instance, for me, abortion is not good, but it is permitted in Islam up to a certain time period. Again, even in Islam, it is not considered a 'happy' thing, but life is difficult, and not everything is meant to be perfect.

On the other side of it, I think that too often in the west, it is used as birth control - or worse, population control by racists (planned parenthood in America, was created by a racist KKK woman to get black and Latino women to abort their babies) - so a lot of scary stuff there. On the other end, I do not want to be linked with right wing Christian groups on the other side either. I have my opinions on it, but it will just not be a focus. So no, we won’t come out trying to back peddle and change everything. Rather - we will focus on the issues most people can agree on, and on the others, I think, if we talk about it rationally and clear, not trying to force other views - then many people will respect that.

I.e.I will never let Vegan Reich be a mouthpiece to make people Muslim. It did not start as that, and it is not what it is for. If people see I'm Muslim but don’t try to force it on them, it makes them respect Islam and me better. No one likes being forced to do anything. In terms of the Changing of views in the bandfrom Animal Lib. To Hardline to Muslim (as for a while the name changed to Vegan Jihad)and now back to the beginning againWouldn’t that be hypocrisy?

Or at least paradoxical?What I was trying to say, is that very often, at certain points in our lives - we profess one ideology or another, grow, change, merge etc into stances - that may seem counter than earlier ones, or at least different - but that if any of us our honest with ourselves, very often, we always hold many ideas within us at one time. And sometimes they may be real variances, other times just perceived. I for instance simultaneously believe in Islamic government for Muslims - I am Shia by the way:) - whilst at the same time also holding strong Anarchist beliefs. It may seem a contradiction, but it is not on a deeper level, see - I believe in the principle of non-authoritarianism, and the movement towards ALWAYS fighting government oppression - but I also see the human need to have order, and rules of law. So to me, it is very much the Tao. We need order, and the counter balance to order, is struggle and Anarchy - resisting too much control.

There is no perfect static utopia, always movement. Tell us a bit about your conversion to Islamhow it affected you, how did you experience it?

How was having new rules in your life? Were you considered a weirdo/fanatic back then?I've been a practising Muslim for 12 years now. Becoming a Muslim actually made me MUCH more tolerant of things/actions which I might not have agreed with when I was younger. Since the Quran says there is no compulsion in religion - it truly is not up to me to dictate someone’s moral behaviour, or my version or understanding of what morality is to them, so long as that behaviour is not oppressing me.Certainly, we as Muslims have a code of rules that we chose to abide by to some degree or another, and I am for instance, not that strict on those, you might say I’m a pretty liberal Muslim - but for other people, it is not my place. What I mean by this is, for instance, I don’t drink. But I'm not gonna go to some non-Muslim and kick their ass for drinking. People's relationship to God, or belief or non-belief in God is their business.

I cannot compel someone to believe as I believe. The only time Muslims are required to fight people, is when those people are unjust and oppressive. So anyway - my point is that things may not be as they appear from the outside, a lot of people think conversion to Islam would probably make someone fanatical - which for most people I know, is quite far from the truth. How you cope with living in the XXI century with a VI century belief system?I don’t think it is fair to say that people who converted to Islam are people have not incorporated modern awareness into their lives, by the simple fact that they have become Muslim. This is really a western stereotype of Islam.

That is not accurate! Certainly, there are many Muslims, who live in the past. But, entire segments of Muslim society, have always believed in progressing with the times. Shi'a Islam, in fact, by the very nature of how it views the Quran, always maintains a current up to date interpretation of things. Now, there will arise different views of what up to date means, and thus you will find both liberal and conservative rulings even within the same country - but what I am saying is, Islam is in no way more stuck in the past than any other society/religion/belief etc.Just as say, the Anarchist movement or Communism, must adapt to changing aspects of society, as the working class dies out in some countries, arises in others etc. as the nature of things changes, all ideas must adapt to this reality. But at the core of any belief is a set of standards by which each group adapts according to its root belief.

What I mean is, a Communist may adapt to a changing world, but still believes in basic economic principles that they try to adhere to in that adaptation. An Anarchist in 2006 America has entirely different set of circumstances than say a Spanish Anarchist in 1930-36.

Most Anarchists in America are far from syndicalism, and much more individualist for instance. But at the root, they have a base definition at least, which they try to develop within their thoughts. We as Muslims also have different opinions, many of which we argue about amongst ourselves - but nonetheless, we all are trying to keep up with the reality of modern times, and in general, are doing a fine job at it.Speaking of all this modernism/traditionalism etc - have you read any of Rene Guenon's work? Very interesting read on the flaws in modernism. Highly recommended.

We see the nature of man and woman being very sexual - and their being variances from man and woman in how sexual they are as individuals. Some men may marry one woman and be fine, never desire another.

The same with some women. Some men may take more wives, others may need various temporary encounters. The goal of Islam is not to stifle or regulate ones 'animal' nature, but to put it in a controlled context so society is not out of control. However, it does not seek to moralize on the validity of those choices so long as it does not go against what we view as Halaal or permissible. Your views on Ramadan?The best time of the year for me at least. A time to remove oneself from worldly passions, purify the soul, curb carnal desires etc - focus on humility, spiritual pursuits etc.

And yes - in the evening, eating some very good foods;)basically - no food from about 5 in the morning to about 7 at night. And also, I add extra prayers called Tarawih prayers that i do in the middle of the night. An exhausting but rejuvenating period - helps refocus all my energy and spiritual pursuits after a year immersed in the madness of Dunya (earthly affairs with biz and so on). Also, it is good for even the most wealthy of Muslims to remember what it is like to be poor, and also, to spend their money on the poor during the month, to help out the less fortunate around us. As a Muslim how do you relate to opposite sex socially? And the ‘impure/pure’ connotation that often is charged on Muslims?Do you mean casual touch, as in avoiding a hug or shaking hands?

First of all, it should be known that this is not a standard absolute practise with all Muslims - and not one that i practice. Friends of mine who are women, I hug goodbye, even ones that are born Muslims, middle eastern women etc. This comes down to how strict one is i suppose, though there are arguments there amongst us Muslims as to what is ok or what is not. But it should be known - that even for those who will not make such contact - it is not that women are dirty or unclean, impure etc. For likewise, there are Muslim women who will not hug a man, and it is not because the man is considered dirty or unclean. For those who take that position, it is purely an issue of their belief in non-interaction on a physical level between the sexes unless they are married. It is to avoid arousal, to avoid possible illicit activity between people who are not married.

But there is no connotation that women are impure. Nor that men are. Again, it is not mandatory in terms of it being a pillar of the faith. Again, many Muslim women i know do not wear hijab. As far as some Islamic states requiring it - they are trying to push a more strict adherence to Sharia, sometimes as a response to imperialism, going further than they would have before, and in other cases, they are just societies that are inherently more conservative etc by culture. But it is important to know that it is not a uniform must across the Muslim world. And that within every country, you also find different interpretations and practices.

Likewise, you mentioned why women have to and men don’t. But - the reality is, men too have rules we are supposed to adhere too. We are not supposed to wear shorts above the knees. We are supposed to cover our hair as well with kufi or turban. The issues are the same.

It is just that men tend to always have less faith than women, so you see men breaking the rules more for their own desires, where as women in Muslim countries tend to be more observant than men. It is easy for people who are enlightened, to be somewhat libertine in their relations, and try to adhere to conscious or some higher level of motivation - even if the standards are not religious, but just artistic, intellectual etc. What I mean by this is, I was very comfortable as an anarchist, as an animal lib person, as a musician, artist or whatever, meeting some woman who I had things in common with, and making a bond, sometimes with no commitment or whatever - and it being a good thing, no one got hurt etc. Two responsible people, joining for a moment. But society and the world is not made up of only people of conscious.

It is made up of all types, many of whom operate on the most base level of desire or instinct. Islam strives to set a simple standard of rules, to create order in society, and avoid the problem of unwanted children, orphans, sexually transmitted diseases and so forth. And what is interesting, is that even with all the trouble in the Muslim world since colonialism, the corruption, poverty and so on. In areas such as the spread of aids, and unwanted children, the Muslim world is still much better than the west.

Western society has allowed itself to remove itself from the natural order, and from the good aspects of tradition, to a point where everything goes, whenever, and wherever, and unfortunately, not a high enough intellect of its people to behave right or police themselves. So again, it is not that Islam sees sex in any way as wrong, sinful or dirty etc. In fact, quite the opposite.

The famous hadith of the Prophet (sal) was a saying that his three favourite things in the world were prayer, perfume and women. So interesting, even our own prophet, is listing to earthly, sensual things, along side of prayer. Not to mention all the hadith present about how sex is for pleasure, i just want to make it clear that Islam is no fundamentalist Christian thing, nor some weird back to nature Hardline view that thinks sex is only for procreation. My view of rules, is very similar to Taoism in china back in it's prime.

Taoists very often operated on the outskirts of society, non affected by certain norms, and so forth, but in honesty, they always accepted and appreciated the bigger societal 'Confucionist” norms, in that that structure permitted them to accomplish their pursuits in peace - structure in a country like china, has always been the thing that keeps it from erupting into war and chaos. So though the Taoists did not like to be personally tied into the structure or adhere to every aspect of it, they non the less, also gained from its existence. I must also emphasize, that it is not entirely where I am coming from either. Though also, truth be told, as I get older, am less likely to over romanticize the Russian anarchist, as well as less likely to demonize all of the communists. Life is always more complex on the ground, than it is in books, especially history books. I have always hated Trotsky for what he did to the anarchists - but recently I read an interesting article from him, talking about Bakunin.

Saying how Bakunin at no point wanted to give validation to the state - BUT, nonetheless, turned to the very same state for financial support, guns and so on. Not that I think it is wrong for Bakunin to have done this either. But my point is - human nature, will always make this balance exist, between those who want authority and those who don’t. It is impossible for authority to not exist, just as it is impossible to make the desire for no authority to disappear.

They are equally part of human nature. So it is what I was saying with people. Islamically, all souls are equal in their rights, but not equal in their qualities, abilities. We see the world made up of many facets and variations of creation, both physically, mentally, creatively and so on. There are brilliant artists and composers, amazing mystics like Ibn Arabi and so on - just as there are those not concerned with such pursuits - whether inborn, or from environment. The point is - from a Muslim point of view, all life is sustained equally from Allah, and all life has an equally important role in the cosmic scheme of things.

But it does not mean each individual being has the same abilities in this Dunya or physical world. It is why they say each verse of the Quran has 7 meanings, and each one of those meanings has 7 meanings and so on. Some people want the basics, some want a little deeper, some the even more abstract and so on. That is what I was saying with mutah in Shia islam. It is a ritual yes.

But it is no accident that muslim countries have the lowest incidence of aids for instance. These little rituals, keep just enough of an ordered approach to things, to keep stuff from getting totally out of control. Still - it permits enough freedom for those who want it. A woman in Iran, who doesn’t want to be tied down by a permanent husband, as is fastly becoming the case, with many college students, can just make mutah, for as little or long as they like, and move from this guy to that if they are bored even. But the waiting period in mutah, keeps a check on disease from spreading and kids born not knowing who fathers are etc.

Nothing is perfect, all i am saying is, i believe in a balance between form and freestyle, order and chaos. Martial arts is a perfect example. I have done martial arts for so many years, that when I fight, it is very free form, I just fight instinctively now. But - many things appear from different styles over the years. Yet - I do not believe in mixing styles who use different approaches.

I teach the arts I know in a traditional manner, using the approaches of those specific arts within that curriculum. Cos the approaches are very different from each other - and cannot be properly mixed - they are opposites. That said - if someone learned them all, like me, maybe years later, they might find bits and pieces from different ones coming up when just fighting, but it is a long process to be able to properly use it with that freedom. At first glance, and for many years, to much freedom in it, just makes someone no good at it, makes the techniques not work.

So for me, yes - i even have doubts - but I desire to submerge my will, my ego, the 'me' itself, into something not me - something greater. And I have made the leap, at least intellectually, of believing that the ultimate real that sustains this physical plain, is Allah, and that the Quran is the word of Allah. I cannot prove it to you - and it is why, I don’t even try. I am not a proselytizer. I only explain to people to clarify what points are, what is the nature of this thing we call Islam, but of course, I do not expect for it to make sense for everyone, nor strike the same chord with others as it has for me.

The Circle Jerks are a hardcore punk band formed circa 1979 in Hermosa Beach, California. It was formed by Black Flag's original singer, Keith Morris, and future Bad Religion guitarist Greg Hetson.

They were among the preeminent punk bands of the L.A. Scene in the early 1980s.The band broke up and reformed twice, sometimes with different bass players and/or drummers. They disbanded for the first time after the release of their fifth album, 1987's VI, as Hetson decided to continue touring and releasing a number of albums with Bad Religion. However, they reunited around 1994 and recorded a reunion album, Oddities, Abnormalities and Curiosities, in the following year, then a tour followed. After that, the Circle Jerks once again parted ways as Hetson was still involved in Bad Religion, but reunited again for good around 2001. The band has continued touring ever since.To date, the Circle Jerks have released six full-length studio albums, one compilation, live album and live DVD.

Their last studio release, Oddities, Abnormalities and Curiosities, came out in 1995 and is the only reunion album the band has released to date. However, they are reportedly gearing up to release a new studio album, but it is unknown when it will occur.Many of today's later punk groups cite the Circle Jerks as an influence, including Anti-Flag, Dropkick Murphys, Good Riddance, NOFX, The Offspring and Pennywise. Lead vocalist Keith Morris was an original member of Black Flag, co-founding the band with Greg Ginn and recording the Nervous Breakdown EP with them before suddenly departing the group in 1979. Morris formed Circle Jerks along with guitarist Greg Hetson, bassist Roger Rogerson (a classically trained guitarist), and drummer Lucky Lehrer.Their debut album, Group Sex was released in 1980 on the Frontier Records label; its 14 songs totaled out at 15 minutes. It featured some songs that Morris had written while in Black Flag (Black Flag claimed the songs were 'theirs') and one song Hetson wrote the music to. The song Hetson wrote, was a guitar riff and solo deemed Hetson's 'Signature'.

That same year, the group was one of several California punk bands to be immortalized in the Penelope Spheeris documentary The Decline of Western Civilization; live versions of five songs from Group Sex appear on the movie's soundtrack.In 1981, the group signed with IRS Records subsidiary Faulty Products and recorded their second release, Wild in the Streets, the title track of which is a cover version of a Garland Jeffries tune. Faulty Products ceased operations several months after the release of the album, forcing Circle Jerks to find their third record deal in as many years. While they regained the copyright to Wild In The Streets, the original stereo master tape was lost, forcing the band to do a remix from the multi-track tapes when they reissued the album, along with Group Sex, on CD in 1988. They signed a management deal with War producer/manager Jerry Goldstein's Far Out Productions, and recorded their third album, Golden Shower of Hits, in 1983; the album was released on Goldstein's LAX label.

The title track is actually a medley of six cover versions (of artists as diverse and unexpected as The Association, The Carpenters, and Tammy Wynette) strung together to create a story line of two people who fall in love, have an unplanned pregnancy, rush into marriage, and end up divorced. Another song from the album, 'Coup D'Etat', was used in the soundtrack of Alex Cox's early film Repo Man, and the band makes an appearance playing an acoustic/lounge version of 'When The Shit Hits The Fan'.Not long after Repo Man had concluded its first-run release schedule, Rogerson and Lehrer left the band. They were replaced by Zander Schloss (who also appeared in Repo Man) and Keith Clark respectively. The band also changed labels for the fourth time, signing a deal with Relativity Records' metal imprint Combat Records, which had started a punk sublabel, Combat Core.

The newly revamped group recorded Wonderful, and released it in 1985. Their newfound stability allowed the lineup to record a second album for Relativity, VI, not long afterward. One track from VI, 'Love Kills', had been commissioned by Cox for the soundtrack of the movie Sid and Nancy, and can be heard early on in the feature.

The Circle Jerks dissolved around 1989 as Hetson left the band to continue playing guitar and release a number of albums with Bad Religion. Live recordings made during what would be their final tour at the time were immortalized in the live album Gig in 1992, their third and last release for Relativity.During the hiatus, Hetson would continue playing in Bad Religion; Schloss played guitar and bass with various acts; Clark initially retired from music; Morris worked menial jobs, battled health problems, and kicked a longtime dependance on drugs and alcohol. Around 1994, the Circle Jerks, along with the Wonderful-era lineup, reunited for good and signed a major label deal with Mercury Records, a move that had a few business complications: Hetson was still with Bad Religion, who had signed a long-term contract with Atlantic Records, while Schloss had been part of a band contracted to Interscope. Those complications ironed out, the band recorded Oddities, Abnormalities and Curiosities and released it in the summer of 1995. To date, it is the band's last studio album recorded by any line-up.

One track on the album, a cover of The Soft Boys' 'I Wanna Destroy You', features backing vocals from pop singer/songwriter Deborah Gibson, who had just wrapped up a solo album with the same producer the Circle Jerks were using. Gibson later made a surprise appearance at the Circle Jerks' performance at punk mecca CBGB's to perform 'I Wanna Destroy You' with the band. Despite such media attention, the group suddenly imploded three weeks into a tour behind the album.

The breakup would not be totally permanent, but Clark left music for good afterward. Further Circle Jerks activity was suddenly held up when Morris announced that he had been diagnosed with diabetes in 2000. A multitude of punk bands held benefits on his behalf.The core of Morris, Hetson, and Schloss continues to tour to the present day, in between other commitments - Hetson is still a full-time member of Bad Religion, Schloss also plays bass for the reformed first-generation LA punk band The Weirdos, and Morris was an A&R director for V2 Records until the label was suddenly shuttered by its owners in 2007. Original bassist Roger Rogerson died in 1996 of a drug overdose.

Lucky Lehrer became a lawyer and is still living in Southern California.In 2004, The Circle Jerks shot a live concert DVD as part of Kung-Fu Records' live DVD series The Show Must Go Off! The band plays many songs from all six of their studio albums, plus - in nods to Schloss' other current band and Morris' salad days, respectively - covers of The Weirdos' 'Solitary Confinement' and Black Flag's 'Nervous Breakdown'.For several years, there has been a rumored Circle Jerks album to feature new material, which had been said to be imminent; although no further formal announcement has been made. In late February 2007, the band released their first new song since 1995 on their Myspace page, titled 'I'm Gonna Live', adding more anticipation to the possibility of a new album emerging.More recently, the Circle Jerks have been featured on a television commercial for XM Satellite Radio. They are the first band played in the commercial and the song is 'Operation' from the album Group Sex. MDC is a punk band formed in Austin, Texas in 1979.Playing fast, anarchist punk has earned the band close association with Jello Biafra and the Dead Kennedys, as well as numerous other US punk bands of the early eighties. The band were also unique in frequently changing their name to a different initialism of MDC with every new record released. Incarnations include Millions of Dead Cops, More Dead Cops, Millions of Deformed Children, Multi Death Corporations, Millions of Damn Christians, Magnus Dominus Corpus, Male Dominated Culture, Metal Devil Cokes, and Missile Destroyed Civilization.BiographyFormed in 1979 and playing their first gig in April 1980 they were one of the three bands in Austin, Texas, who pioneered hardcore punk in the early '80s alongside The Dicks and Big Boys.

Prior to 1982 they were known as The Stains. These bands frequently played together and established the hardcore scene in their hometown.

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They self-produced one single under the name of the Stains in 1981, a slower version of future MDC song 'John Wayne Was A Nazi' backed with 'Born to Die'. Both songs were later released on the debut MDC album.By 1982 the band had relocated to San Francisco, California, a city and state with very vibrant music scenes, and renamed themselves MDC. By this point the band were active participants in the growing hardcore scene, and released their debut LP Millions of Dead Cops on the band's own label, R Radical, and Jello Biafra's Alternative Tentacles who helped with distribution.

The album is now widely considered a punk classic, and features songs such as 'John Wayne Was A Nazi', 'Dick For Brains', and the harsh criticism of the police, 'I Remember'. As well as capitalism ('Corporate Death Burger'), homophobia (Americas so straight), and American culture ('Violent Rednecks') were all criticized, without irony, by the band.During the summer of 1982 they became involved in the Rock Against Reagan Tour, during which time they fell out with the band Bad Brains over accusations of homophobia due to Bad Brains' new-found Rastafarian religion. 1982 ended with a tour of Europe with the Dead Kennedys which brought the band greater exposure in the punk scene outside of the USA, especially in the UK.Their involvement in the Rock Against Reagan activities continued through 1983 and they returned to recording with the EP 'Multi-Death Corporations' which was distributed in the UK by British Anarcho Punk label Crass Records and R Radical in the US. The EP broke new ground by addressing, in the lengthy liner notes and artwork, the growth of corporations and the violent suppression of Communism in Central America. In 1984 they released another EP, Millions of Dead Children (also known as Chicken Squawk), this time dealing with Vegetarian and Vegan issues via a country hick punk tune.Smoke Signals was released in 1986, their second album featuring a more diverse style than previously, with a foray into '70s rock with the song 'South Africa is Free'. This album also saw Gordon Fraser's first appearance as main guitarist. Their third album, 'This Blood's for You', followed in 1987 and saw them returning to a more orthodox hardcore punk style with themes again including intervention in Central America and criticism of the Reagan Administration.

MDC toured Europe in 1988, where the live album 'Elvis - In The Rhineland' was recorded. The band released the album 'Metal Devil Cokes' in 1989.The 1990s opened with a number of line-up changes, swiftly followed by the 1991 album 'Hey Cop!

If I Had A Face Like Yours.' , featuring Bill Collins on guitar and Matt Freeman (of Operation Ivy) on bass.

The acclaimed 'Shades of Brown' album was released in 1993, published by 'New Red Archives' in the US and 'We Bite' in Europe. The album featured the Hip-Hop vegetarian song 'Real Food, Real People, Real Bullets'. The band, now with guitarist Chris Wilder and bassist Erica Liss, marked the album with a tour of the former Soviet Union, making MDC the first American punk band to tour Russia. This was followed by two more European tours and several U.S. Tours until 1995, where began a lull in the band's activity. The lack of new recorded material (other than a 7-inch release on Slap-a-Ham Records) and live performances after 1993, plus personal problems of band members, pointed to an informal break-up of the band.MDC's singer, Dave Dictor, returned with an entirely new backing line-up in 2000, and MDC released a new album ('Magnus Dominus Corpus') in 2004.

Recently they took part in a 25th anniversary world tour in 2005, with an all-original lineup.Recently, the band has been based in Portland, Oregon.Original membersDave Dictor, VocalsRon Posner, GuitarFranco Mares, BassAl Schvitz, DrumsLater lineupDave Dictor, VocalsRon Posner, GuitarMichael Donaldson, BassDejan Podobnik, DrumsBrady Green, Backup VocalsSide ProjectsIn 1997 Dave Dictor, along with Tom 'Pig Champion' Roberts of Poison Idea, released 'An Anvil Will Wear Out Many A Hammer' with their band The Submissives. The Teen Idles were an American hardcore punk band that formed in Washington, D.C. In August 1979. Teenagers Nathan Strejcek, Geordie Grindle, Ian MacKaye and Jeff Nelson were the band's continual members.

The Teen Idles recorded two demo sessions and one extended play, Minor Disturbance, before their breakup in November 1980. The first band on Dischord Records, The Teen Idles were an early landmark in the straight edge and the D.C. Hardcore movement; MacKaye and Nelson would later form Minor Threat.Inspired by American punk bands such as Bad Brains and Black Flag, The Teen Idles' music was an early version of hardcore punk, and was an attempt, in the words of MacKaye, 'to get away from a really corrupted music'. Their appearance, lyrics and musical style aimed to revive a punk movement that they felt had lost its original zeal. The Teen Idles history began when Washingtonian Ian MacKaye discovered punk rock through a local college radio station, Georgetown University's WGTB. He met Jeff Nelson, a classmate of his, after Nelson set off a pipe bomb outside their school and MacKaye went to investigate.

The two became friends and quickly discovered their shared interest in punk. MacKaye and Nelson saw their first punk show in January 1979 — a benefit concert by The Cramps for WGTB. The concert inspired MacKaye and Nelson: MacKaye later commented, 'It blew my mind because I saw for the first time this huge, totally invisible community that had gathered together for this tribal event.

I thought, 'This appeals to me. This is the world I think I can breathe in. This is what I need.' 'After seeing a Bad Brains concert, MacKaye and Nelson began playing in a high school punk band, The Slinkees, with school friends George Grindle and Mark Sullivan.

The Slinkees played a single show before Sullivan went to college. The band then tried to recruit MacKaye's friend, Henry Garfield, who turned down the offer, so Nathan Strejcek was recruited as a vocalist. The Slinkees then renamed themselves The Teen Idles. After touring and practicing for several months, the band performed two demo sessions at a local studio in February and April 1980, despite the engineer and a visting band openly laughing as they recorded. They also began playing at house parties and pizza houses, as well as an art gallery called Madam's Organ, opening for Bad Brains.To revive the previous fury of punk rock, which the band felt had been compromised by New Wave, The Teen Idles tried to appear as intimidating as possible. They shaved their heads, grew Mohawks and wore various punk accessories; Nelson and MacKaye would even drive nails into the soles of their boots so they would make an 'ominous clacking' sound. Their appearance was at odds with their demeanor; according to MacKaye, 'in our shows and within our own community, we were totally goofy guys.

We were painfully honest — we didn't shoplift, we didn't vandalise, we didn't spray-paint. We don't do anything — everybody just hates us because of the way we look.' After about a dozen concerts, opening for bands such as the Untouchables, The Teen Idles decided to tour the West Coast in August 1980.

Along with roadies Garfield (later Rollins) and Sullivan, the band set off for California, but were immediately hassled by police upon their arrival. After challenging the police, Nelson was handcuffed for an hour. The Teen Idles eventually began their tour, however, they were refused entry at Los Angeles' Hong Kong Cafe due to their age. Originally due to open for the Dead Kennedys and the Circle Jerks, they settled for playing the next night, opening for The Mentors and a band called Puke, Spit and Guts in exchange for just $15.

The Teen Idles impressed those at the venue; MacKaye later commented: 'People were freaked out by how fast we were.' Upon returning to Washington D.C., The Teen Idles were taken by Skip Groff, who owned the Washington record store Yesterday and Today, to Inner Ear, a small recording studio in Arlington, Virginia. They were introduced to engineer and owner Don Zientara; Inner Ear was merely Zientara's house where he owned a four-track recorder. The Teen Idles played in the basement while Zientara engineered and Groff produced. Seven tracks were recorded in total. However, the band had not thought about what they would do with the tapes, and shelved them. By late 1980, The Teen Idles had decided to part, mostly due to Grindle's disillusionment with the band.

Their last show, opening for SVT at the 9:30 Club on November 6, 1980, was a key event for all-ages shows. Before playing at the Mabuhay Gardens in California, the band were only allowed entry to the club once big Xs, to show that they were under the legal drinking age, were drawn on their hands. They suggested this idea to the 9:30 club management back in Washington, and vowed that if youths were caught drinking, the club could ban them all forever. The management agreed; The Teen Idles' final show passed without incident.In their year of touring, The Teen Idles had earned a total of $900. The band had two options: to divide the money between each member or press the recordings they had done with Don Zientara at Inner Ear.

Choosing the latter, Nelson, Strejcek and MacKaye formed Dischord Records with Groff's help to release the recordings. Released in January 1981 with an initial pressing of one thousand copies, Minor Disturbance was a local success, receiving radio air-play and reviews from fanzines such as Touch and Go, which meant that Dischord had the money to release records by other bands.After The Teen Idles disbanded, Grindle chose not to pursue a career in music. By the time of Minor Disturbance's release, Nelson and MacKaye had already formed Minor Threat. The band's first show was on December 17, 1980. Strejcek became involved in the running of Dischord Records, until Nelson and MacKaye, disappointed by his lack of effort, 'decided to take it back.' The Teen Idles appeared on a number of hardcore compilations throughout the 1980s and 1990s: Dischord, to celebrate their one hundredth release, issued Teen Idles in 1996, comprising the two demo sessions the band had recorded in February and April 1980. According to journalist Michael Azerrad, The Teen Idles 'played proto-hardcore tunes that skewed their social milieu'.

MacKaye later explained in the hardcore documentary Another State of Mind: 'When I became a punk, my main fight was against the people who were around me — friends.' When MacKaye was thirteen, he moved to Palo Alto, California for nine months.

On his return, his friends had begun taking drugs and drinking. MacKaye added: 'I said, 'God, I don't want to be like these people, man. I don't fit in at all with them.' So it was an alternative.' Written mostly by MacKaye, the band's lyrics, like their appearance, also railed against New Wave and the complacency of many first wave punk bands, such as The Clash and Damned: in 'Fleeting Fury', Strejcek shouts: 'The clothes you wear have lost their sting / So's the fury in the songs you sing'. The Teen Idles were mainly influenced by punk bands in Washington and California, such as Bad Brains, Black Flag and The Germs, and reflected this in their music; The Teen Idles' songs consisted mostly of Strejcek shouting over a one-two hardcore beat with MacKaye and Grindle provided short and speedy riffs, interspersed with quick guitar solos from Grindle. In 1985 Doherty reemerged with an all new Gang Green lineup consisting of himself (vocals, guitar), Chuck Stilphen (guitar, vocals), Glenn Stilphen (bass, vocals) and Walter Gustafson (drums).

This second lineup is the most famous nationally as it was both the first to tour and the one that recorded the classic songs 'Alcohol' and 'Skate to Hell'. This edition of Gang Green released the Another Wasted Night LP on Taang! Records in 1986.

It is regarded as one of the definitive hardcore records of its time.By 1987, when they were signed by Roadrunner Records the band’s musical style had come to lean more toward heavy metal and the personnel of the band, save Doherty, had changed completely. This incarnation of Gang Green consisted of Doherty, Fritz Erickson (guitar), Joe Gittleman (bass) and former Jerry's Kids drummer Brian Betzger. In 1989 Gittleman left to devote more time to The Mighty Mighty Bosstones and was replaced by Josh Pappe, formerly of Dirty Rotten Imbeciles.

After touring the United States with Social Distortion in 1990 Gang Green experienced a few more lineup shuffles before being dropped by Roadrunner and going on hiatus for several years in which Doherty founded the bands Klover (Mercury Records) and Hamerd.In 1996 Gang Green surfaced yet again with Walter Gustafson returning on drums, along with newcomers Mike Earls (guitar, vocals) and Matt Sandonato (bass, vocals). They re-signed with Taang! Records and in 1997 released Back & Gacked (EP) and Another Case Of Brewtality. These records saw the band returning their punk roots and even moving in a pop direction.

Gang Green toured Europe and the U.S. Extensively in 1997 and 1998. Chris Doherty moved from Boston to Cincinnati shortly afterwards and in the early 2000s Gang Green played only once or twice a year in Boston and NYC.CurrentIn 2005 Chris Doherty and a new Gang Green lineup supported the Dropkick Murphys’ tour of the U.S. West coast tour.In early 2007, the band is touring through Florida and up the east coast of the US with bands like Lucky Scars and Moral Decline before heading out for a European tour scheduled for spring 2007 that will include UK and Irish dates. Jerry's Kids was one of the earliest bands.

Their first recorded output was on the Modern Method record label's compilation LP in 1982. They contributed six tracks.Frontman Bryan Jones and rhythm guitar player Dave Aronson later left the band, bass-player Rick Jones (Bryan's brother) switched to vocals and of took over on rhythm guitar. It was this line-up that recorded the classic 12 song on in 1983, featuring songs like 'Cracks In The Wall', 'Tear It Up' and 'Vietnam Syndrome'. They broke up in 1985, but reformed in 1987 with a more speed metal sound and released an LP on entitled Kill Kill Kill. The band reunited again in 2004 and has been playing several shows per year around Boston since then, though their current recording plans are unknown.Lineups1981-1982- vocals- guitar- guitar- bass- drums1982- vocals and bass- guitar- guitar- drums1982-1985- vocals and bass- guitar- guitar- drums1987- vocals and bass- guitar- guitar- drums1987-????- vocals and bass- guitar- guitar- drums. Articles of Faith were a highly influential Chicago based hardcore punk band (1981-1985) notable for song-writing in a class above most of their contemporaries (and successors).

The band's later work, the posthumous In This Life LP in particular, either founds or foreshadows the emo amd emocore sound.citation needed The typical AoF song featured hummable melodies and conspicuous hooks, showing funk, reggae and jazz influences, accompanied by lyrics bemoaning the difficulty of finding freedom and fulfillment in a cookie-cutter mass-consumption driven society, typically but not always, delivered at a searing pace. While the band's influence was blunted by being based in Chicago, they maintained close musical and thematic ties to the Washington DC / Dischord Records scene. Drummer Virus X briefly left the band in 1984, due to the relative waning of the band's political emphasis, but returned to record In This Life.Vocalist/guitarist, Vic Bondi, was originally a protest singer with decidedly leftist views. He went on to form Alloy, and Jones Very after AoF's demise. At the time of Aof's original breakup Bondi was working as a History instructor at the University of Massachusetts.

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Bondi's subsequent day jobs included working on Microsoft's Encarta, he was Managing editor of the Encarta Interactive English Learning edition (Bondi's comments on this fairly ironic form of employment can be found here). Alternative Tentacles Records released the complete discography of the band in 2002.

Bondi resurfaced with another politically charged band, Report Suspicious Activity, in 2006, and was featured prominently in the documentary 'American Hardcore'.Line-upDave Shield (bass, voc), Virus X (drums), Dorian Tajbakhsh (git), Vic Bondi (voc, git), Joe Scuderi (git), Pat Gruber (management), Steve Ross (road).Download:Articles of Faith - What We Want Is Free - 1982Articles of Faith - Give Thanks - 1984Articles of Faith - In This Life - 1985. Minor Threat was an American hardcore punk band that formed in Washington DC in 1980 and disbanded in 1983. While Minor Threat was short-lived, it had a strong influence on the hardcore punk music scene in the United States. Minor Threat's song 'Straight Edge' was the basis for the straight edge movement, though the band has had no involvement with the movement itself. Critics have called Minor Threat's music 'iconic,' and have noted that their 'groundbreaking' music 'has held up better than that of most of their contemporaries.' Along with the fellow Washington DC hardcore band Bad Brains, Minor Threat set the standard for many hardcore punk bands in the 1980s and 1990s. They produced short, often astonishingly fast songs, eventually with high production quality, which at the time was lacking in most punk and alternative rock.

All of Minor Threat's records were released on the band's own Dischord Records label.HistoryEarly yearsWhile at Wilson High School, Ian MacKaye and Jeff Nelson were in the Washington DC punk band The Teen Idles. After that band broke up, MacKaye decided to switch from bass guitar to vocals, and organized Minor Threat with Nelson, bassist Brian Baker and guitarist Lyle Preslar. Minor Threat's first performance was in December 1980, opening for Bad Brains.

Their first 7' EPs, Minor Threat and In My Eyes, were released in 1981. The group became popular regionally, and toured the United States east coast and Midwest.' Straight Edge,' a song on the first EP, helped to inspire the straight edge movement. The song seemed to be a call for abstinence from alcohol and other drugs— a new thing in rock music, which initially found a small, but dedicated following.

Other prominent groups that subsequently advocated the straight edge stance included SS Decontrol and 7 Seconds.Another Minor Threat song from the second EP, 'Out of Step', further demonstrates the belief: ' Don't smoke/Don't drink/Don't fuck/At least I can fucking think/I can't keep up/I'm out of step with the world.' The 'I' in the lyrics was only implied (mainly because it didn't quite fit the rhythm of the song), and some in Minor Threat - Jeff Nelson in particular - took exception to what they saw as MacKaye's imperious attitude on the song.Minor Threat's song 'Guilty of Being White' led to some accusations of racism, but MacKaye has strongly denied such intentions and said that some listeners misinterpreted his words. Slayer later covered the song, with the last iteration of the lyric 'Guilty of being white' changed to 'Guilty of being right.' In an interview in Steven Blush's book American Hardcore: A Tribal History, MacKaye has stated that he was offended that some perceived racist overtones in the lyrics.HiatusIn the time between the release of the band's second seven inch EP and the Out of Step record the band briefly split when guitarist Lyle Preslar moved to Illinois for college – during his semester at Northwestern University, Preslar was a member of Big Black for a few tempestuous rehearsals.

During this same period, MacKaye and Nelson put together a studio-only project called Skewbald/Grand Union; in a reflection of the slowly increasing disagreements between the two musicians, they were unable to decide on one name.The group recorded three untitled songs which would be released posthumously as Dischord's 50th release. During this period Brian Baker also briefly played guitar for Government Issue and appeared on the Make An Effort EP. In March of 1981, at the urging of Bad Brains' H.R., Preslar left college to reform Minor Threat. Shortly afterwards, Minor Threat and In My Eyes were re-released as First two 7's on a 12'.When 'Out of Step' was re-recorded for the LP Out of Step, MacKaye inserted a spoken section explaining, 'This is not a set of rules.' An ideological door was already opened, however, and by 1982, some straight-edge punks, such as followers of the band SS Decontrol, were swatting beers out of people's hands at clubs.

Minor Threat, however, did not promote such behavior.Break-upMinor Threat broke up in 1983. One contributing factor was disagreement over musical direction. MacKaye was allegedly skipping practice sessions towards the end of the band's career, and he wrote the lyrics to the songs on the Salad Days E.P.

In the studio. This was quite the contrast between the earlier recordings as he had written and co-written the music for some of the band's early material. Bad Brains are an American hardcore band, originally formed in Washington, D.C.

They are widely regarded as being among the pioneers of hardcore punk., though the band's members objected to the term 'hardcore' to describe their music.Originally formed as a jazz fusion ensemble under the name Mind Power, Bad Brains developed a very fast and intense punk rock sound, which was both musically complex, and was often played faster and more emphatically than the music of many of their peers. They were also an adept reggae band, in a sort of Jekyll-and-Hyde arrangement, while later recordings featured elements of funk and heavy metal.

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Bad Brains are also notable as religious followers of the Rastafari movement.Bad Brains broke up and reformed several times over the years, sometimes with different singers and/or drummers. The band's classic lineup is singer H.R., guitarist Dr. Is a hardcore punk band from Vancouver. Their music was often described as hardcore punk and they are often referred to as the 'founders' of hardcore by their following along with Bad Brains and D.C's Minor Threat.

Their second album Hardcore 81 was thought by many1 to have been the first actual reference to the second wave of American punk bands sound as hardcore. Singer/guitarist Joey 'Shithead' Keithley is the only founding member to have stayed in the band throughout its entire history, however original bassist Randy Rampage has rejoined DOA after a long absence and is in the current lineup. Has often released music on Jello Biafra's Alternative Tentacles Records, and they have released an album with Jello Biafra titled Last Scream Of The Missing Neighbors.D.O.A.

Has always maintained an uncompromising anarchist populist political stance. The band is known for its outspoken political opinions and has a history of playing for many causes and benefits. Its slogan is 'TALK-ACTION=0'.

The band has been active on many issues, including Anti-racism, anti-globalization, freedom of speech, and the environment.Founder Joe Keithley now spends a great deal of time working with his record company Sudden Death Records which has branched off into many areas of music.In 2003, Vancouver Mayor Larry Campbell declared December 21st to be 'D.O.A. Day' in honour of the band's 25th anniversary.Albums. Hardcore '81 the term hardcore do-it-yourself The Stickmen='filter:alpha(opacity=90); opacity.90;'hardcore showIn North America, the music genre that became known as hardcore punk originated in different areas of in late 1980 and early 1981. Some of the major areas in North America associated with the origins of hardcore punk include: California, Washington, DC, Chicago, New York City, Winnipeg, Vancouver and Boston. At the same time, a British form of hardcore punk emerged, although it would not be known as UK 82 or British hardcore until some years later.The origin of the term hardcore punk is uncertain, however one theory is that the Vancouver-based band D.O.A. Made the term official with the title of their 1981 album, Hardcore '81. However, until about 1983, the term hardcore was used fairly sparingly, and mainly as a descriptive term.

(i.e., a band would be called a 'hardcore band' and a concert would be a 'hardcore show'). American teenagers who were fans of hardcore punk simply considered themselves fans of punk — although they were not necessarily interested in the original punk rock sound of late 1970s (i.e. The Sex Pistols, the Ramones, The Heartbreakers).

In many circles, hardcore was an in-group term, meaning 'music by people like us,' and it included a wide range of sounds, from hyper-speed hardcore to sludgy dirge-rock, and often including arty experimental bands, such as The Stickmen and Flipper.Hardcore lauded a do-it-yourself (DIY) approach. In most cities the hardcore scene relied entirely on DIY recordings, zines, radio shows and concerts due to many bands having little to no access to any means of production. Hardcore punk fans brought a dressed-down T-shirt, jeans, and crewcut style, which contrasted with the more elaborate and provocative clothing styles of punk rockers, such as Richard Hell, Sid Vicious and Soo Catwoman. Black FlagBad BrainsMinor ThreatMichael Azerrad's Our Band Could Be Your Life traces hardcore back to three bands: Black Flag, Bad Brains and Minor Threat. He calls Black Flag, formed in Los Angeles in 1976, the music’s 'godfathers.' Azerrad credits Bad Brains, formed in Washington, D.C.

In 1977, with introducing 'light speed' tempos. He calls Minor Threat, formed in Washington, D.C. In 1980, the 'definitive' hardcore punk band. Minor Threat formed out of the short-lived Teen Idles. Carry-over members of The Teen Idles were Ian MacKaye (who went on to co-found post-hardcore groups Fugazi and Embrace) and Jeff Nelson. Minor Threat played an aggressive, fast, hardcore punk style influenced by Bad Brains.

The band was responsible for inspiring the straight edge movement, with their song of the same name. After the Teen Idles broke up, MacKaye and Nelson put the band's concert money toward founding Dischord Records, initially to release their Minor Disturbance EP on vinyl.

The record label went on to release EPs by Minor Threat and many other early Washington, DC hardcore bands.Black Flag had a major impact on the Los Angeles scene—and later the wider North American scene—with their raw, confrontational sound and DIY ethical stance. The original lineup featured Keith Morris (later of the Circle Jerks), and the final lineup featured former State of Alert singer Henry Rollins, who first sang with Black Flag at a concert in New York City on June 27, 1981. Tours in 1980 and 1981 brought Black Flag in contact with developing hardcore scenes in many parts of North America.Bad Brains formed in Washington, DC. The band members had a varied background in soul music, funk, and jazz, as well as taking influence from heavy metal (Black Sabbath) and punk rock (the Sex Pistols). The single 'Pay to Cum' b/w 'Stay Close to Me' was released in 1980. Their first album (originally a 1981 cassette-only release from Reachout International Records) included three reggae songs, in sharp contrast to the rest of their music, which mainly consisted of fast, loud, hardcore punk.